Hi to all,
At least on joomla 3,with the plugin of Eorisis,you can do that easily.
-it depends on the user to accept the coockie,no cockie messed up data,no matter if you use PIWIK or GA or any other beacon based system
-it depends that the script to be loaded in all your webpages,if your having an website with 10 pages,is easily to check this,if your having 100.000 pages,more hard to check.
Google did not take into account the 200 Million people,that are using Ad-Block,witch is now Main Stream,and some sites are reporting even 50% of their total visitators haves Ad -Block installed.
s not anymore thats for sure.
3)Server-side -very good,but it does have a few back downs as well ,back downs that i think they can be fixed,and maybe we can come up with some solutions:
I`m using like i said joomla 3 on my side with Eorisis plugin for Piwik in that plugin you have option to Track BOTs,that is very important,as mostly,you want boots out of your stats,Human are Human and Bots are Bots,i setup on that TAB for Bots - IGNORE option on all.
I don`t know and maybe somebody can,clarify me,if i setup IGNORE option to all ,in eorisis plugin for joomla 3,piwik it will track on VISITATORS real time - HUMAN ? or BOTS + HUMAN ?
Or bots are tracked separately?
As after i activated server side tracking,i have BOT TRACKER display into my dashboard,and data started to flow in :
Bingbot 47462 2015-08-09 19:32:02
Yandex 11573 2015-08-09 19:32:01
GoogleBot 3754 2015-08-09 19:30:13
Yahoo! Slurp 1891 2015-08-09 19:31:21
Baiduspider 289 2015-08-09 19:27:25
Media Partners GoogleBot 51 2015-08-09 19:02:29
Magpie Crawler 32 2015-08-09 06:02:10
Wget 30 2015-08-09 15:40:57
XoviBot 4 2015-08-09 19:26:13
-On server side tracking you don
t know the resolution of the user browser -On server side tracking you dont know what plugins the user browser is using.
-On server side it does not appear the time it did take the user to load the page -1s,4s,8s,etc
-Feel free to add more
This an problem,because this kind of data is important.
In awstat for example the first 2 problems is solved by this script:
Version : 5.6+
MiscTrackerUrl can be used to make AWStats able to detect some miscellanous
things, that can not be tracked on other way like:
- Screen size
- Screen color depth
- Java enabled
- Macromedia Director plugin
- Macromedia Shockwave plugin
- Realplayer G2 plugin
- QuickTime plugin
- Mediaplayer plugin
- Acrobat PDF plugin
To enable all this features, you must copy the awstats_misc_tracker.js file
into a /js/ directory stored in your web document root and add the following
HTML code at the end of your index page (before ) :
If code is not added in index page, all this detection capabilities will be
disabled. You must also check that ShowScreenSizeStats and ShowMiscStats
parameters are set to 1 to make results appear in report page.
If you want to use another directory than /js/, you must also change the
awstatsmisctrackerurl variable into the awstats_misc_tracker.js file.
Change : Effective for new updates only.
Maybe something like this can be implemented into Piwik as well,so we can see users screens size +what plugins are they using into their browsers.
And for the time on page,it should be an solution too,i don`t have it right now,but surely it can be solved.
On my side the numbers are very differently in one of my websites :
Piwik Server Side Tracking method 8 august 2015 - 2527 unique,2555 visits,7434 pageviews,5757 unique pageviews
According to awstats,in 8 august 2015,i don
t know how many unique it was,but its reporting that : 1,747 visits it was.
And in 6 august 2015 Awstats,i don
t know how many unique it was,but its reporting that : 3,406 visits it was.
I`m telling this,because AWSTAST,is too server side tracking.
On server side -visitator browser unknown for the date of 8 august 2015 is :1437 visits according to Piwik,i mentioned this,because from what i know,bots mostly does not have no language on browser.Maybe somebody can tell me if this visits with unknown language on browsers is from human or robots.
The answer is very simple,i
m doing alot of Social networking marketing,and i have bit.ly on my links,on bit.ly i think everybody knows it,its used to shorten your link,but it also does provide data,about people who clicked on your shorten links.
What do you people think about this?And what do you trust your server logs or the front end tracked or not user?!
An feature,that google analytics won`t have ever and more accurate data.
I did find some very usefully info here,but i did not tested yet,what numbers that software it will report :
Scenario displaying the tracking method: